Wednesday, March 30, 2005

Snack Card Challenge!! Round 2

A reminder you should post your first name and tutor group to qualify for the snack card. The challenge this week is to explain the following:

Why might 350,000 pre-school children avoid a trip to the optician after a golden harvest.

Clues will only be given by answering YES or NO.

Good Luck, especially to Mr McNaughts class. Teachers are banned!

CLUE: New Scientist

64 comments:

  1. because they are poor

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  2. Uh....No

    Each section of the statement is a clue.

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  3. Uh....No

    Each section of the statement is a clue.

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  4. Shreyans Kothari Y10LMarch 30, 2005 at 3:49 PM

    Well the grains produced from the golden harvest have a high concentration of vitamin A. statistics show that 350,000 children get childhood blindness due to lack of vitamin A. The crops would provide enough vitamin A for these children, and would therefore stop them getting childhood blindness, so they wouldn't need to go to the opticians

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  5. argh that says 10L by the way..

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  6. haha if that is correct, then it was waaay too easy! haha not that I have a problem with that, mr burrell would be paying for my lunch and food expenses!!

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  7. er,....they'd get bored stiff

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  8. Zachary Pestana, 9RMarch 30, 2005 at 8:05 PM

    does the word golden have something yo do with the answer?

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  9. Adam Streather 10AMarch 30, 2005 at 8:16 PM

    Would it be that the pre school children ate carrots which make you see in the dark and so they dont have to go to the optician, im not sure thats all I can think of!!!

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  10. Zachary Pestana, 9RMarch 30, 2005 at 8:23 PM

    Oh i got it!! the golden harvrst refers to the new genetically engineered 'golden rice'! however, it is not known how much provitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician because this new golden rice has 23 times more provitamin A, which prevents blindness

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  11. This is it: the golden harvrst refers to the new genetically engineered 'golden rice'! however, it is not known how much provitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician because this new golden rice has 23 times more provitamin A, which prevents blindness

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  12. okay well u didnt mention specifically why 350,000 PRESCHOOL KIDS, so therefore ure answer is invalid

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  13. Shreyans Kothari Y10LMarch 30, 2005 at 8:30 PM

    this is an improvement on mine:
    Well the grains produced from the golden harvest have a high concentration of vitamin A. statistics show that 350,000 children get childhood blindness due to lack of vitamin A. The crops would provide enough vitamin A for these children, and would therefore stop them getting childhood blindness, so they wouldn't need to go to the opticians. It is currently unknown how much vitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician (thanks zachary for the little add-on!)

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  14. Zachary Pestana, 9RMarch 30, 2005 at 8:41 PM

    let me rephrase that
    the golden harvest refers to the new genetically engineered 'golden rice'! it contains 23 more times more provitamin A, which prevents blindness. however, it is not known how much provitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician. oh, and 350,000 is just an example since the real number is 500,000

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  15. no 500,000 is not the real number.. do u actually think that there will be exactly 500,000 kids? not 500,001? but all we can do is round it off, and some websites are not reliable, but since me and mr. burrell both came up with 350,000, majority rules

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  16. haha i wish mr burrell would just come and declare a winner to end this war between zachary and I..

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  17. Zachary Pestana, 9RMarch 30, 2005 at 9:17 PM

    let me rephrase that again
    the golden harvest refers to the new genetically engineered 'golden rice'! it contains 23 more times more provitamin A, which prevents blindness. however, it is not known how much provitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician. oh, and 500,000 children get blindness every year and preschool children get it the easiest becausr they're always watchin tv or something.
    and YOU STOLE MY answer!! Shreyans Kothari !!!

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  18. Zachary Pestana, 9RMarch 30, 2005 at 9:18 PM

    let me rephrase that again
    the golden harvest refers to the new genetically engineered 'golden rice'! it contains 23 more times more provitamin A, which prevents blindness. however, it is not known how much provitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician. oh, and 500,000 children get blindness every year and preschool children get it the easiest becausr they're always watchin tv or something. 350,000 is jus part of the 500,000 children
    and YOU STOLE MY answer!! Shreyans Kothari !!!

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  19. hey no i didnt.. look up mine was already in at 3 o clock

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  20. make that 3:49PM, the only part i amended was the " It is currently unknown how much vitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician", and besides, u stole my idea by rephrasing yours, so we're even

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  21. by the way, zachara, how long did u take on finding the answer? )just out of curiosity)

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  22. WE are talking about children who do not have the priveleges we do, and that is why they are malnutritioned. how can u say that they are watching TV????

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  23. Although I respect the fact that Zachary's answer includes the concept, there are many flaws. First of all, the 'golden harvest' does not simply refer to 'golden rice' but there are many types of golden harvest, for example, in India work is being done into the 'golden groundnut', which also provides an adequate amount of Vitamin A. The golden 'chickpea' and 'pigeonpea' is also being investigated into.
    Secondly, Zachary's answer also includes the quote "preschool children get it the easiest becausr they're always watchin tv or something." Most of the children who suffer from 'childhood blindness' are in poverty, and do not have the financial status to "watch tv or something". The disease itself is due to the lack of vitamin A, and therefore has a very undistinct, or nonexisting link with the amount of television a person watches in a day. Also, it is not only pre-school children who watch television, workers such as cameramen or tveditors are watching it for more than 8 hours a day, as it is part of their job, so how come they don't get childhood blindness?

    For these reasons and more, I sincerely believe that Zachary does not deserve the 100 baht snack card, and needs to review what has been written and ensure that it is correct, Moreover, I believe that Zachary needs to review what has been said before, in order to prevent oblivious false accusations of "stealing answers"

    Thank you...

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  24. Well, what can I say!! Its great to see you two scarping over a THB 100. Shreyans last post is the more accurate but only because Zachary kept pushing him. Interesting that few of the staff I spoke to about this actually realised that there are a number of crops with higher Vit A content.

    However, neither of you have explained the connection between Vit A and blindness...so its game back on boys!!!!!!

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  25. OKAY I GOT IT:
    Well the grains produced from the golden harvest have a high concentration of vitamin A. statistics show that 350,000 children get childhood blindness due to lack of vitamin A. Vitamin A is also essential for maintaining mucous membranes that line the tear ducts,glands, and other places in the eye. The crops would provide enough vitamin A for these children, and would therefore stop them getting childhood blindness, so they wouldn't need to go to the opticians. It is currently unknown how much vitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician.

    Although I respect the fact that Zachary's answer includes the concept, there are many flaws. First of all, the 'golden harvest' does not simply refer to 'golden rice' but there are many types of golden harvest, for example, in India work is being done into the 'golden groundnut', which also provides an adequate amount of Vitamin A. The golden 'chickpea' and 'pigeonpea' is also being investigated into.
    Secondly, Zachary's answer also includes the quote "preschool children get it the easiest becausr they're always watchin tv or something." Most of the children who suffer from 'childhood blindness' are in poverty, and do not have the financial status to "watch tv or something". The disease itself is due to the lack of vitamin A, and therefore has a very undistinct, or nonexisting link with the amount of television a person watches in a day. Also, it is not only pre-school children who watch television, workers such as cameramen or tveditors are watching it for more than 8 hours a day, as it is part of their job, so how come they don't get childhood blindness?

    For these reasons and more, I sincerely believe that Zachary does not deserve the 100 baht snack card, and needs to review what has been written and ensure that it is correct, Moreover, I believe that Zachary needs to review what has been said before, in order to prevent oblivious false accusations of "stealing answers"

    Thank you...

    Although I respect the fact that Zachary's answer includes the concept, there are many flaws. First of all, the 'golden harvest' does not simply refer to 'golden rice' but there are many types of golden harvest, for example, in India work is being done into the 'golden groundnut', which also provides an adequate amount of Vitamin A. The golden 'chickpea' and 'pigeonpea' is also being investigated into.
    Secondly, Zachary's answer also includes the quote "preschool children get it the easiest becausr they're always watchin tv or something." Most of the children who suffer from 'childhood blindness' are in poverty, and do not have the financial status to "watch tv or something". The disease itself is due to the lack of vitamin A, and therefore has a very undistinct, or nonexisting link with the amount of television a person watches in a day. Also, it is not only pre-school children who watch television, workers such as cameramen or tveditors are watching it for more than 8 hours a day, as it is part of their job, so how come they don't get childhood blindness?

    For these reasons and more, I sincerely believe that Zachary does not deserve the 100 baht snack card, and needs to review what has been written and ensure that it is correct, Moreover, I believe that Zachary needs to review what has been said before, in order to prevent oblivious false accusations of "stealing answers"

    I hope this will be good enough ,Thank you...

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  26. oh, I dont know...I'm thinking about it. Also how are you able to post at 9.20 am? There could be an investigation :-))

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  27. As far as I am aware, 9:20 is during our first break. As far as I am aware, logging into the patana website during our free time is not a crime. Investigation? what for?

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  28. ok, i am going to try again i have improved it based on what you said shreyans, and no hard feelings about the stealing answer thing right?

    the golden harvest refers to the new genetically engineered 'golden rice'! it could also refer to many other golden crops with increased amounts of vitamin A. golden rice contains 23 more times more provitamin A , which prevents blindness, that normal rice. however, it is not known how much provitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician. oh, and 350,000 children get blindness every year and preschool children get it the easiest because they crying a lot and lack of vitamin A would mean drying up of tear ducts, glands and iris. so,if the crops could produce enough vitamin A, the children could avoid a trip to the optician. (it has been proven that pre school children cry the most)

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  29. AAAAAAARGH, I KEEP MISSING OUT STUFF!!!!

    the golden harvest refers to the new genetically engineered 'golden rice'! it could also refer to many other golden crops with increased amounts of vitamin A. golden rice contains 23 more times more provitamin A , which prevents blindness, that normal rice. however, it is not known how much provitamin A is left after cooking, so the children MIGHT avoid a trip to the optician. oh, and 350,000 children get blindness every year and preschool children get it the easiest because they crying a lot and lack of vitamin A would mean drying up of tear ducts, glands and iris. so,if the crops could produce enough vitamin A, the children could avoid a trip to the optician. (it has been proven that pre school children cry the most) to keep it short, less vitamin A, more chance of blindness

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  30. yeah no hard feelings...

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  31. you know what shreyans, you're too longwinded. just giv the damn answer

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  32. And yet again I am being forced to make the same point. Please read, (if you can), and please note that in my answer there is a summary, and if you do not understand what that means, then I will tell you: a summary is "short version containing gist of something"

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  33. please do not use bad language on this website "damn" is considered bad language and punishments will be used if necersary!!!

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  34. anonymous sounds like mr moore

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  35. anonymous sounds like mr moore

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  36. anonymous sounds like mr moore

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  37. you know, it would be really funny if a year 9 beat a year 10 in this

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  38. Steady boys. Try to keep your discussion on the intellectual plane and away from the personal. An absolute no no is making comments about staff...on pain of death!! I think you have both done a brilliant job of making your case. There is nothing wrong with taking other peoples ideas as long as you credit them.

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  39. butyou haven't said anything Mr. Burrell!! we have both given our answers, please acknowledge, and direct us if there is anything further we need to investigate..

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  40. and zachary, I must admit that in this case, there is no advantage that us year10s have because we have covered nothing of this sort in lessons.. anyway you are a worthy opponent, well done!

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  41. mr burell, has the answer appeared anywhere in the comments? (yes or no) and thank you shreyans

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  42. Okay I know I have said this before, but this is my Final Final point :P

    It is the children of the poorest families, who spend 50-80% of their income on food and who depend heavily on low-cost, high-energy starchy food such as rice. These are the children who are most vulnerable to Vitamin A deficiancy. These infants are weaned on rice gruel are particularely vulnerable as tehy eat little else.

    In South and Southeast Asia, 70% of the children under 5 are affected, and this is considerred the 'pre school' range, and because of the fact that they rely so heavily upon rice gruel, makes them most susceptible to the deficiancy, thats why it is pre school kids in particular

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  43. You are both correct. However what is more impressive is how you keep trying to improve your answer. You seriously think that I am going to stop that process. Ok, no one has mentioned Beta Carotene....

    How about you both collaborating to produce the next 'Snack card Challenge'? I will help you and teach you how to blog at the same time!! Now you cant ask more than that...ok you could ask for the snack card!!

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  44. haha i don't do this for the snack card.. it's the glory...
    besides, it's fun! gets us thinking..

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  45. Vitamin A comes in two forms, either as preformed vitamin A or as one of a range of provitamins called carotenoids. Beta-carotene is the most well-known of these carotenoids, which actually convert themselves into vitamin A once digested. Preformed Vitamin A is found in fats (butter and margarine), whereas beta-carotene is found in fruit and vegetables, especially brightly coloured ones like tomatoes, peppers and oranges.
    Vitamin A is needed for growth and maintenance of healthy skin. It also helps us to see in dim light, so prolonged deficiency can cause night blindness. Beta-carotene has antioxidant properties which can protect us against developing heart disease and some cancers.

    The genetically modified rice contains beta-carotene and other carotenoids. It helps see in the dark, and would help prevent night blindness, aand ultimately childhood blindness, which is irreversible

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  46. and yes helping to produce the next challenge sounds cool..

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  47. i dont want the snack card. i did it for a challenge. my research came up with the same answers as shreyans. except that Vitamin a is actually found in the golden grain as provitamin a, which is converted into vitamin A in the body. and yes. helping with the next challenge sounds good to me too.

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  48. wow. it seems as if mr. burrell has just been saved 5 sandwhiches! wow! hehe..

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  49. ok boys you both win!! Excellent work. Come and see me tomorrow and we will discuss the next challenge.

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  50. even shorter time now

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  51. proves to you that year 9s cant always beat year 10s at things!!!

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  52. anything easier for the year sevens!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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  53. no because if they put something easy out for the year 7s then one of the year 9, 10, 11, 12 or 13 will probably get it!

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  54. Dont you people hav lives to be getting on with apart from fighting over only 100 baht? Thats a bit pathetic u no!

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  55. the point is that it is fun and exciting to challenge yourself. In life you have to challenge your self

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  56. hey seeing as shreyans and zach are not having the snack card can i have it??? cause i dont no the answer but i want the snack card...

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  57. slightly strange that people still post here and that the snack card is already won!

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  58. yes you may hav to challenge yourself but wouldnt it be funner to just go bungie jumping?

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  59. anantha92 this is also too hard for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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